I should have gotten screenshots because Rick Meyers changed his site again. He removed his screenshots where he highlighted Ephesians 1:5. I guess when money is involved he can reason a bit. So, it would stand to reason that all he has to do is remove his saying his wedding date on e-Sword and say, he noticed it and it was an error and that would make plausible sense to any law enforcement agency. Or he can wait till they say something and just say . Oh, thanks for bringing that to my attention. So, he will just say it was a typo and that he never read anything I wrote about it (even thought his site changes based upon what I write). But it is a preponderance of the evidence so it will still help.
Keep reading for what Ephesians 1:5 actually means (in bold teal, and bold maroon, below).
Rick Meyers is stating he believes in predestination, with scripture, so no one would argue with him, by him only saying so with scripture. But that’s not who I am. That scripture is vastly misunderstood and probably the main reason why people believe in predestination (by ignoring the rest of the Bible to believe that verse as it seems to be written). That’s why we have all the religions we do.
If Rick Meyers wants to believe in predestination, that’s his right. But believing that is not going to and did not save him: God picking people to be saved. That totally removes any responsibility on our part and pretty much trashes (that belief does) the first words out of Jesus’ mouth when He began His ministry (as it is called) Him preaching that all men should repent. Rick might say if God picked you, you’d repent (That is just not how it works. That is not Biblical). That did not work for Rick Meyers (because God does not pick people who do not pick Him first by responding to Him, choosing Him, when He calls them).
The truth is: God calls you (He calls because He first loved us: He calls by His good pleasure / He calls according to His purpose: IE if you want Him you’ll hear Him because He is calling everyone), you choose Him (Biblically, that is called repenting and believing) and then He chooses you. He did that from the foundation of the world, by time not being an obstacle to Him. That’s how it works.
What about John 15:16 “You did not choose Me but I chose you…” That means our choosing Him is based on Him calling us and means nothing if He does not choose us (here, Matthew 7:22-23, as always because they would not repent and believe). Even when we choose Him we do not save ourselves or become God’s child by doing that. That is done by the grace of God and Him choosing (He is the one with the Authority) us, who do not deserve to be saved or chosen, simply by repenting and believing in Him.
But God did not pick us ahead of time to be saved or not saved, as is obviously Rick Meyers’ view.
I will give Rick Meyers one thing. I did not think he was smart enough to change his page. He obviously did so because of me because he could have kept that same screenshot but he did not and he obviously is making a statement to me by doing what he did, written above: Keeping his view but in a more clandestant manner so as not to be challenged. Where before he loudly broadcasted his stupidity, he now does so quietly, in a way where he though he could not be challenged:
So, how would I teach Ephesians 1:5? Rick uses King James here, so I will also: Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Romans 8:28 works well describing what God means by “the good pleasure of His will” (or according to the kind intention of His will, NASB) as being the same, as I see it, as “called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.) because Romans 8:28-30 explains what predestination means, that we are predestined to be conformed (not saved) to His image after we are saved.
Romans 8:28-30 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew (who He saw repent and believe through time when He called them: foreknew is the same as chose/chosen), He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
So that’s my answer, that “the good pleasure of his will” means “called according to His purpose”. It’s the same thing said in different words. And when you see called in there it gets back to the truth we all know, that God calls everyone (those who hear His call, are called “many”) and then we respond. Look at it like this: I am NOT changing the word of God, I saying what I believe is actually being said by “the good pleasure of his will.”
So I am removing the book and the number of the scripture so you see that I am NOT saying this is what the scriptures says but I am doing this to show you what I think it means/teaches: So here goes:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, [us] called according to His purpose; [which is] the good pleasure of His will.
And with called in there (as it really is because its in the Bible) you know you must respond. So that removes any possibility for people to be able to warp the Bible, by saying that scripture shows God chose us without calling us (which He does not do. He calls) or without us repenting and believing, which is the only correct response to His call.
That’s what I know Ephesians 5:1 actually says and that fits the rest of the Bible, that we are not predestined to be saved but to be conformed to His image, after being saved.
So I am definitely not paid what I am worth. Has anyone ever figured that out before? God told me as it unfolded.
So maybe what I saw that I thought was Rick Meyers commentary that came with e-Sword, was actually his own notes: notes he put in his own copy of e-Sword, below, again, to show us how stupid he was trying to show us how smart he was. Whoever wrote the below, that I said was on the old e-sword site (and was on it), and I seriously doubt it was a real commentator but am certain it was Rick Meyers by his unending stance written above, is wrong;
Rick Meyers does not know what chosen means.
He says it’s not “merely” a,b and c (things he lists) but “rather” (then he gives his wrong definition). Merely and rather correctly is like this: It is not merely a fish but a big fish. You did not exclude that it’s a fish. It is not aqua blue but rather sky blue (you excluded aqua blue). But Rick Meyers says it’s several things, then he excludes them with “rather.”
Then he gives his definition:
Rick Meyers’ e-sword states that chosen is a special relationship between God and His children based on God’s choice. That is wrong. There are two types of chosen. A chosen people which were not all God’s children (so he is wrong if he meant that). They were a people that had a special “opportunity” to know God, that’s all, like people now who have a Bible are people with a special opportunity to know God better now. Then we have the Ephesians 1:4 chosen.
Ephesians 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love.
Rick Meyers e-sword uses Ephesians 1:4 to back up his definition “a special relationship between God and His children based on God’s choice”
The truth is Eph 1:4 “chosen” is God seeing who repented and believed through time and of those who really did that, He chose them. He chose us. we did not choose Him.
John 15:16 You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.
How that works is if you say you repented and believed it’s like you putting in an application to the Armed Forces. If you just said it like an actor and did not mean it and believe it you would not be chosen, which would be like you not turning in your application or you lied on it and were not chosen.
James 2:19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.So it has to be real and include repentance, not just be belief (see James 2:19 above). Rick Meyers believes in Jesus only as the demons do also.
Real belief only exists with people who repented too. So if you believe like the demons, meaning you never repented (turned to Jesus and made Him your Lord), it is a rejected application and you are not chosen. God did not choose you.
If you did really repent and believe God chooses you and He chose you (did that) before the foundation of the world because time and all that could happen and would happen was not and is not an obstacle for Him knowing you and when and how you repented and believed.
Rick Meyers left out that you needed to repent and believe in Rick Meyers’ e-sword definition of chosen, like you had no part in the process when you have to reach up to God when He calls you,
Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”Why does the Bible say many are called when everyone has the opportunity to be saved? Because in the call goes out to everyone but what God is saying here is it’s only those that hear His call that He counts as the “many” that are called.
Its like, lets say a song with a call from God was being played on one radio station and not on another. So, the people that actually hear that song can repent and believe and those who are not tuned in can;t even do that, right? Right.They were absorbed into themselves and evil so they did not even tune in to be counted in the many that are called.
Everyone chosen was called.Everyone saved was called. And, everyone born again was called. That’s what God means by many are called (instead of all). It’s who by their own decision wanted to hear Him. Then of those who hear the parble of the sower takes over which I am not getting into here. Matt 13:1-23.
Back to chosen and I can give you a brief definition too, like Rick Meyers e-sword. A chosen people and chosen (like in saved or born again) Chosen speaks of a child of God from the perspective of God’s (and your choice to choose Him: He casts the deciding vote) as He chose us through time. Born again speaks of a child of God from the perspective of new births. Saved speaks of a child of God from the perspective of being saved from something.
Within the category of Eph 1:4 chosen we have the Bible speak of a group of people as a chosen race. This is not the “Chosen People” with a special opportunity. This is all believers that are spoken of here, spoken of as a chosen race.1 Peter 2:9 But you (all believers) are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Rick Meyers e-sword definition of chosen is wrong and he does not bring in the scripture needed to teach you the truth. He makes it sound like a VIP club of God’s children that God chose on His own from the beginning of time with no need for them to repent and believe, regardless of how evil the person may be.Jesus preached repentance immediately when He began His ministry but repentance is not important enough to be included in Rick Meyers’ definition of chosen because he never did it to know it was a part of being chosen. You can’t be chosen without repenting (and believing).
Matthew 4:10-17 10 Then Jesus *said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.’” 11 Then the devil *left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him.
Jesus Begins His Ministry
Now when Jesus heard that John had been taken into custody, He withdrew into Galilee; 13 and leaving Nazareth, He came and settled in Capernaum, which is by the sea, in the region of Zebulun and Naphtali. 14 This was to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet:15 “The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles—16 “The people who were sitting in darkness saw a great Light, And those who were sitting in the land and shadow of death, Upon them a Light dawned.”17 From that time Jesus began to preach and say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
So Eph 1:4 “chosen” is God seeing through time who repented and believed when He called them and if it was real on the part of the person called, He chose them and they became a child of God.What Rick Meyers did as written in e-sword was look at Ephesians 1:4 alone, ignorning the rest of the Bible (as so often is done by his kind) and said to himself. “Da, let me think. God chose, so it was His decision and the people He chose were His children so it must be a special relationship He has with them. I am so smart. Let me put this on my home page and show everyone how smart I am.” (instead, showing us how stupid he was).